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z-ro 8
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Quote from garph :http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1354161#post1354161

thx, ya beat me to it.

and it only shows kick in the replay because the ban was issued using the Insim. Insim messages are not displayed in replays.
z-ro 8
S2 licensed
http://ironhorseracing.forumot ... n-f1/observe-list-t50.htm

No problems eh?

Although i shouldn't have explain myself, i will.

Many servers have specific rules you are asked to follow in order to continue using them.
(IHR) Killfix expects a certain level of behavior on his servers,and he has entrusted a few people to help uphold those standards.

I have not, do not, nor will not ban someone if they do not earn it. Public online racing can be very frustrating, and accidents happen, and everyone deserves a fair chance. But when you breach the rules repeatedly, you leave no choice but to be removed from the situation.

Admins monitor server behavior as a service to those who want to use the servers as they should be, within the posted guidelines which you agree to follow simply by joining said server.

You said yourself "watch the replay and kick". Well, i saw YOU crash YOURSELF and wreck two other people which have done no harm. So, i kicked.

If you would rather I didn't waste my time babysitting the actions of people such as yourself, Smiley, then i won't.
But you will then give up the right to complain about the low quality of racing on the IHR server.

Serve your ban, stop forum-flaming like a child, and grow the hell up.
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z-ro 8
S2 licensed
Quote from nofear88bg :Ok i ask for another opinion,so please people comment!

yes people, please comment.

especially when you see who was at fault for the crash to begin with.
z-ro 8
S2 licensed
here, i'll post the whole replay for you.

also, here is the correct link for the report.

http://ironhorseracing.forumot ... r88bg-smiley-ban-t153.htm
z-ro 8
S2 licensed
Quote from zeugnimod :Hopefully VWS or RO.

yeah, but then everyone will complain cuz they only have one real car and one real track....
z-ro 8
S2 licensed
Quote from obsolum :You probably mean RSR. They had their hayday shortly after CTRA closed down; apparently their server was very popular for a while. I guess people just stopped driving there after the "novelty" wore off, like they usually do

that is exactly what happened......the groups just move on to something else.....

makes me wonder what's after IHR.....
z-ro 8
S2 licensed
this thread makes my brain hurt
z-ro 8
S2 licensed
The issue is your approach.

Admins are not required to babysit their servers. If there are admins spectating to monitor a server, consider it a blessing, not a right.

If you have an issue with someone on track, all you have to do is politely get an admins attention and ask them to review the situtation.

Racing on a server provided by the very team you are a member of does not mean you are employed to kick/ban people for their behavior.

Simply put, if you give an attitude, you're going to get an attitude back.
z-ro 8
S2 licensed
you can also listen. many people don't.
z-ro 8
S2 licensed
Quote from hyntty :IIRC driving backwards isn't forbidden either

thankfully
z-ro 8
S2 licensed
Quote from jasonmatthews :Whatever you do, don't say "did you finish it?" on the IHR servers...

For some completely unknown reason to me and the rest of mankind, it seems that shit is a swear word and abusive to those guys

As is cock btw, though both are used EVERY single day to express ones owns failures in a race game, but VERY rarely used in the abusive context...

Then we wonder why people complain about airio....

shit has been removed for your pleasure.....so shit away my friend
z-ro 8
S2 licensed
BoB's is good, although it can be very tight with the barriers.

Here's my modified version of Bob's Martyville lyt., complete with a turnaround/staging area.

There's no pitlane, as is was not intented to use one.

It is actually up on one of my servers right now if ya wanna try it out.

Server name is LeveL | SysteM 5

Btw, XRR is a beast on this track
z-ro 8
S2 licensed
Quote from Jimmy_Lemon :LFS Username: Jimmy_Lemon
First and Last Name: Elliot Shaw
Country Code: UK
Desired Number: 78
Team Affiliation: none

go away
z-ro 8
S2 licensed
nice forum layout
z-ro 8
S2 licensed
LFS Username: z-ro 8
First and Last Name: Kevin Myers
Country Code: USA
Desired Car Number: 08
Team Affiliation: RSR
z-ro 8
S2 licensed
update server 5 info in OP.

check the site for more info on getting a combo you like.

k.m.
z-ro 8
S2 licensed
haven't been able to access CP for a few hours now.....
z-ro 8
S2 licensed
Quote from AndRand :No "normal" servers were described as all with ranking systems or restricted cars.

I took the first as general - problems with public pick-up servers.

You suggested that peeps should communicate what combos they want.

IMO my suggestion gives answer for all three issues.
Plus with grouping ppl with similar PBs has a kind af ranking system. tadah!

ah, i misunderstood you somewhat....
maybe we need a "hey i have a server and need suggestions as to what combo to put on it" thread.....(hey wait i just did that )
z-ro 8
S2 licensed
Quote from AndRand :I suggested a solution couple posts above that is on Improvements Suggestions. Strangely this thread was winding but my thread on this topic had no naswers.

If you think it is bad idea because it is mine - ok, no problem, you can be morons.

although that is a good idea, it's kind of off topic as to the basis of this thread....
z-ro 8
S2 licensed
i have quite a few setup-grid sets with adjusted gears for 20% already.
they may not be perfect, but they are better than just running stock sets with the restriction.
i can zip em and post em if anybody wants....
z-ro 8
S2 licensed
although i understand the plight, i really dont see why there is a 30-something post thread about how certain servers are set up.

these servers which have been dubbed "abnormal" are paid for, therefore if someone chooses to set it up a certain way, so be it.

many server providers (includng myself) try to offer what is popular with the majority for the moment.

if you look not too far back you will see there was an influx of FOX-only servers, Fox leagues, Fox this, Fox that......

how many months was FM Fox junkies at the top of the populated server list? more than i can really remember.

i'm sure not everyone liked to drive the Fox, but did anyway because thats where their friends were, where the competition was.....

a few weeks ago it was the CAD DD server., last year it was a few weeks straight of tbo's on RSR server. or more recently LR|Race Center.


if IHR shut down right now, the 40+ people there would find somewhere else to go, ranking system or not, and it would be packed for days, weeks months.
some people are trying to do something to make up for the lack of content and/or upgrades that we cannot control.

maybe instead of complaining about what we do have to choose from, offer suggestions as to what you want.
i personally have 5 active servers right now, you want a certain combo? say so.
you can have any combo you want. but those who pay for servers can only guess what you want if you don't say so. they see what is popular and go for it.
i put a poll up here. make a choice, you get what you want.

suggestions usually have far better results than complaints.....


(sorry for the rant...it's the medication...)
z-ro 8
S2 licensed
Quote from EQ Worry :Unfortunately another kind of points would have to be used, not configurable, separate, to be sure it doesn't interfere with the existing framework. These points could be sent over to airio.eu database in regular intervals and retrieved e.g. on each connect.

Actually I already started some work on Airo FULL stats available via Web, though for now it is "simply" displaying various tables of sorted data from one selected instance. To have a peak jump to stats.airio.eu and click some button – the AirAttack instance is auto-updated every 15 minutes, Ready2Roll is just static table for now, it will be dynamic once I have a chance to update the Airio there and adapt config a bit.

But overall, the same DB could be used for global data, summary of all Airios, but limited to FULL versions only I guess, with queries going there and back again.

/drools
z-ro 8
S2 licensed
are playing points distributed the same as race points? if not, maybe playing points could be made standard and used in a global stat.....
then the servers could simply choose the PointsPlaying command already in place in the system as true or false.....
z-ro 8
S2 licensed
it's actually kind of a catch 22.

Part of the reason there are ranking systems is try to help new LFS users to improve there abilites before they have access to faster, more difficult to drive cars.
Experienced players should have no problem progressing through a ranking sustem (provided it is done correctly) to get to the cars they want to drive.
Not to offend anyone, but if your abilites are not up to par, then you end up spending more time in slower cars, which (hopefully) affords those who do have greater abilites a somewhat better opportunity to have a clean race. Because if you join a populated server and get crashed out repeatedly by someone who cannot handle a certain car, you will not be happy, and will leave anyway.
If you take IHR for example, and allowed everyone on the server to drive the GTR's. How long do you think the "experienced" players who are there to have a good race will stay in the server? Probably not long.

And saying there are no "normal" servers really isn't fair. There are 930 servers that show up when i click on "display a list of hosts".

So the some of the most populated one happen to use ranking systems....not much you can do. You can't force people to go to another server that doesn't rank. They choose to be there, just as some choose not to.
There are good quality servers around, you just have to look.
z-ro 8
S2 licensed
is there a specific combo you would prefer? or would you like to be able to select whichever you want?
after seeing a few of these threads, i was thinking of altering one of my servers to user-selectable combos, provided it is not abused.
the specific server currently is set up for oval, and does not use any points or ranking systems, so would be very easily switched to user-selectable tracks/cars.

or i can put up a poll here for a weekly combo to choose from.

k.m.
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